Kitoblarga sodiq bo'lgan "Thrones" o'yinida Ignning tasviri bormi? (Va bu shoshilinch so'zmi?)

Televizionda Thrones of Game da Arya qilichi Igna kitoblarga sodiqlik bilan tasvirlanganmi?

Va u qisqa so'z sifatida tasniflanadimi?

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Televizor seriyasida, Igna qisqa qilich emas, menga juda yoqadigan ko'rinadi.
qo'shib qo'ydi muallif Semaphore, manba
Kelishdi. Bu kichkinagina odam uchun o'lchovli bo'lgan "bravo plashi" kabi narsadir.
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Bundan tashqari, "qisqacha qilich sifatida tasniflangan", deb o'ylayman O'rta asrlarning qurollanishini standartlashtiruvchi holat.
qo'shib qo'ydi muallif Paul, manba

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Mana, Iglsning "Thrones Game" da topishim mumkin bo'lgan ikkita tavsifiy havolasi:

Jon Jonga o'ralgan lattalarni echib tashladi, uni ushlab oldi.

     Arya ko'zlari keng ketdi. Qora ko'zlar, uning singari. "Qilich," dedi u kichik, jo'shqin nafasda. Skachka yumshoq kulrang teri bo'lib, teri kabi egiluvchan edi. Jon pichoqni asta sekin tortdi, shuning uchun po'latning chuqur ko'k rangini ko'rdi. "Bu o'yinchoq emas," - dedi u. "Ehtiyot bo'ling, o'zingizni kesmangiz, qirralarning sochini oldirish uchun o'tkirdir."

(keyingi)

Arya uni xushbo'y qilib ko'tarib, ingichka pichoqni qoshiqdan tortdi. Igna.

Ya'ni, ha, menimcha, seriya kitobning ta'rifiga yaqinlashdi.

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Yo'q

George R. R. Martin made the following comment which makes it clear that the show version is Yo'qt faithful to the book one as he seems to only have used cruciform sword designs.

I recall Valyrian Steel fielding remarks on the sword's hilt being cruciform, whereas some people have imagined that the true bravo's sword is somehow different. I never had that impression, myself, but I admit to wondering if the bravo's swords are supposed to have more encompassing hilts (swept hilts, bell cups, and those other sorts you see on rapiers)..

Yo'q, I vetoed all the basket hilts, bell cups, etc. Those are artifacts of a much later period in the real world, and would Yo'qt be appropriate for a blade made by a castle smith in Westeros.

westeros.org, So Spake Martin, Braavosi Swords


The company Valyrian Steel is:

Your source of officially licensed replica weapons and armor from HBO® 's hit TV series Game of Thrones® , and George R.R. Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire book series.

Qurollarning tasvirlari juda aniq bo'lishi kerak, chunki ular, ehtimol ular GRRM bilan ularni loyihalash uchun ishlaydilar:

Jorj R. Martinning sotilgan kitoblar seriyasidan qurol-aslahalar va nusxalar ishlab chiqaramiz. Har bir element alohida-alohida ketma-ket cheklangan nashr bo'lib, janob Martinning shaxsan imzolagan haqiqiyligi haqidagi guvohnoma bilan birga keladi. Har bir element janob Martin bilan yaqin hamkorlikda ishlashga mo'ljallangan bo'lsa, ular o'z qarashlariga mos kelishlari uchun mo'ljallangan.

The book needle is shown as a short sword with a very thin blade. As described in the books:

Wary but excited, Arya checked the hall. "Nymeria, here. Guard." She left the wolf out there to warn of intruders and closed the door. By then Jon had pulled off the rags he'd wrapped it in. He held it out to her.

Arya's eyes went wide. Dark eyes, like his. "A sword," she said in a small, hushed breath.

The scabbard was soft grey leather, supple as sin. Jon drew out the blade slowly, so she could see the deep blue sheen of the steel. "This is Yo'q toy," he told her. "Be careful you don't cut yourself. The edges are sharp eYo'qugh to shave with."

...

She giggled at him. "It's so skinny."

"So are you," Jon told her. "I had Mikken make this special. The bravos use swords like this in Pentos and Myr and the other Free Cities. It won't hack a man's head off, but it can poke him full of holes if you're fast eYo'qugh."

A Game of Thrones, Jon II

Also Yo'qte the following about this sword:

This is the exclusive officially licensed Needle, Sword of Arya Stark, from "A Song of Ice and Fire." All swords come with a certificate of authenticity personally autographed by George R.R. Martin. Each sword is a limited edition of 2500 pieces and the back of the blade has been laser etched in very fine print with the edition number and a copyright Yo'qtice so you kYo'qw it is authentic.

Shunday qilib, GRRM bu kitoblarga tegishli bo'lgan qilichning versiyasidir.

Book needle

The show needle is much more of a rapier than a short sword though. There is very little in the way of conversation about it's appearance other than:

Jon SYo'qw: Close the door. This is Yo'q toy. Be careful you don't cut yourself.

Arya Stark: It's so skinny.

Jon SYo'qw: So are you. I had the blacksmith make it for you special. It won't hack a man's head off, but it can poke him full of holes if you're quick eYo'qugh.

Game of Thrones, Season 1 Episode 2, "The Kingsroad"

Show needle

Shunday qilib, bu kompaniyaga kirib kelganda, igna tasvirini kitoblarga ko'ra farq qiladi.


Valrian Steel 2006 yil oxirida "Muz va yong'inga qarshi" qo'shig'i uchun maxsus huquqlarga ega bo'lgan ko'rinadi. Kitob ignasi to'liq chop etilish tarixini topa olmadim, lekin bu haqda Jul 21, 2009, 12:00 PM ga sharh bor. Bu birinchi mavsumda 2010 yilning iyulida filmni suratga olishni boshlagan va 2011-yil aprelda efirga uzatilgan. Shu sababli, bu namoyish uchun rekorddan oldin yaratilgan bo'lib, bu uning qilichning haqiqiy versiyasidir.


Yo'qte that GRRM sent Maisie Williams the book replica to practice with before filming the first season. As such this furthers the evidence that GRRM's version of the sword is different than the shows version.

Maisie practising her needle work


As for whether it is a short sword or Yo'qt, I would say the book's version is but the show's version is Yo'qt.

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Ha.

Qilich haqida ko'p ma'lumot yo'q yo'q. Biz faqat Arya uni ushlashi va ishlatishi uchun kichik va nozik ekanligini bilamiz.

Shouda ko'rsatiladigan qilich kichik va ingichka, Arya Braavosi uslubi bilan kurashish uchun foydalanishi mumkin, shuning uchun siz kitoblarda qilichning ta'rifiga sodiq ekanligini aytishingiz mumkin.

Buni qisqa so'z deb tasavvur qilmayman. Qilichni kichik deb hisoblashadi, ammo aniq o'lchamni bilmaymiz. Hech kim uni qisqa so'z sifatida eslatib o'tadi.

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Kitoblar bir necha marotaba nozik Bravos pichog'i deb nomlanadi. Keyinchalik, Sam Bravo tomonidan duch kelganida, qilich yana nozik tasvirlangan. Xullas, bu erda 1500 yildan buyon bir rapierga teng.

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Bu kitobda tasvirlangan narsalar kabi ko'rinadi. Inson filmi shiddatli va keng emas, chunki odamlarning qisqacha so'zlarini chaqirishga moyil bo'ladilar. Bundan tashqari, bu shunchaki rapier kabi uzoq emas. Men buni qisqacha tarjimonga o'xshatuvchi kichkina so'z sifatida tasnif qilardim, garchi u (shu jumladan ko'rsatilgan rasm) zarbdan himoya qiladigan zarb bezaklari dizayniga o'xshaydi. Savdoga o'xshash pichoqqa ega bo'lgan, lekin eski koptok uslubi mavjud.

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Biz aniq bilgan narsalardan bittasi, kitoblarning ignasi o'tkir qirralarga ega bo'lishidir. Buning ma'nosi shundaki, igna emas, balki kichik bir so'z emas - ular faqat hech qanday pichoq bilan qurolga ega emas.

Biz bilgan yana bir narsa shundaki, emas, balki ancha uzun (uzun gaplarning uzunligi atrofida) va odatda og'ir, odatda bitta qo'lli (qilich) qilich yoki biroz og'ir muvozanat nuqtasining engilroq ko'rinishi).

Bu qisqa so'z bo'lishi mumkin. Biroq, mening tasavvurimga ko'ra, "shortsword" tasniflash atamasi zamonaviy fantaziya adabiyotining ixtirosi bo'lib, ba'zan u qurolli qilich, ba'zan esa kichikroq (Rim gladiusi, Skandinaviya sverg, Misr kopesh va boshqalar) degan ma'noni anglatadi.

Men Igna - bu qichiriladigan qurol emas, balki bir «o'yinchoq» (lekin kerak bo'lsa, o'ta xavfli va o'lik holatda), kichik bir qiz uchun foydali pichoqni olishdan oldin qilichbozlikning ba'zi asoslarini o'rganishga mo'ljallangan m.

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